I get at least thirty emails a day demanding I be outraged over something outrageous. They ask for money or that I call my Congressman or the President.
Bloggers blog on millions of outrages every day.
My man Les of Rational Nation is outraged that a white guy was beaten up by black guys cause he was white. Les is outraged that we're not as outraged at this as we were over the Treyvon Martin killing.
I'd love to have the passionate outrage I once had. I had so much damn outrage I could do a credible post every day and visit two dozen other blogs expressing my outrage at the things my fellow bloggers were outraged over.
I had a couple posts lifted almost verbatim by a guy who was a contributor to Huffington Post. Had other posts and stuff lifted from the comment section used as original material by other major leaguers as well.
I was outraged at the time but truth is, I'm tired of being outraged. It's like my old buddy John said to me a long time ago. He was getting screwed by everyone. No matter what he did, he was getting fucked to death. I asked him how he dealt with getting fucked all the time. John said "you get used to it."
I guess I'm just so used to being outraged I don't even feel it anymore.
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Agreed! Get's old sucking on the hind teat that is for sure.
We all have to die some way. Being fucked to death is not the worst way.
Depends who's fucking you Jerry.
I am outraged that you would even post this.
I'm outraged at the perceived outrage you projected on me Truth. The truth of the matter is I'm outraged at the outrageous hypocrisy of the left and sometimes the right.
One thing is for certain, the outrage ain't going to change a damn thing. Perhaps it will be responsible for more outrage that exceeds even the last outrage.
I'm betting on the latter. Given the propensity the media has for stirring up outrage and the politicians jumping on the outrage bandwagon.
As the left eats it up, stirs it up, and propagates it. With the help of the extreme right...
Hypocrisy, it's outrageous
My indifference must seem outrageous to those still capable of outrage RN.
I hear ya - Joe.
I'm so outraged about my current outrageous life that I'm getting tired of being outraged.
I like to quote Tom Cruise from
A Few Good Men:
And the hits just keep on comin'.
You can use that if ya want.
Also you can say:
Bad things Happen to Good People.
We are the good ones - Joe.
And that's the Truth.
And the Meek shall inherit the Earth.
I said that.
Have a great weekend - Joe.
Likely not Truth.
You have played the game well indeed. If I may ask, a case of burn out?
Used. Abused and betrayed RN. Life as I know it will be changing dramatically in 2013.
I feel like John the Bapatist around here.
Unfortunately Sue, neither of us i particularly meek so we will not be inheriting the earth. But the shaft we will inherit. Constantly.
Truth 101,
But isn't it great to be that popular? Not that I'm inferring anything, because I'm not, but all of those people feel a sort of kinship with you, and that ain't all bad...
You have outraged more than most in the blogosphere.
It's more important to be feared than popular Jack.
At one time I achieved that. That was the start of my fall into the abyss of inconsequenciality.
Generally speaking one gets the shaft they of thier own making made.
In life what goes around comes around. Eh Truth?
Sowing the seeds of fear, rather than reason will indeed result in finally being irrelevant.
Not if you're doing it for republicans RN. They still love and fear Rove.
John the Baptist?
You could do worse - Truth.
Think long term Truth. If that ish possible for you.
Welcome to the club.
The entire nation has been numb to outrage since we passed the Patriot Act, "legalized" torture, and were lied into the war in Iraq.
I demand that you be outraged over the fact that I'm outraged!
And no! I'm not "blaming Bush!"
Truth: I had a couple posts lifted almost verbatim by a guy who was a contributor to Huffington Post. Had other posts and stuff lifted from the comment section used as original material by other major leaguers as well.
I have a hard time believing this.
I have a hard time believing nobody reads your outstanding blog WD.
Bob Czeska can kiss my ass.
I think that's how he spells his name.
You can go to Aleska and look up The Oracle Speaks for a list of posts from my old site.
I'm outraged that you're not blaming Bush Shaw.
Golf is what kept me outraged as long as I was Dave.
I am no longer outraged at anything, including progressive bullshit. I simply no longer give a shit.
My favorite (well, one of them) Al Pacino line from "Glengarry Glen Ross"; "All train compartments smell vaguely of shit.....I get's so you don't mind."
And I'm still not completely convinced that a young Bush Jr. wasn't behind those Tate-Lobianco murders back in '68. I mean, seriously, where in the hell was he?
Yeah Will, and that brings this to mind. Maybe, just maybe JFK or RK had something to do with Marilyn Monroe's untimely death. I mean where were the two horn dogs?
Truth: You can go to Aleska and look up The Oracle Speaks for a list of posts from my old site.
I don't know what Aleska is. I did a Google search and the word comes up frequently in conjunction with "diamond".
Also, "The Oracle Speaks" appears to be someone else's active blog.
Will: And I'm still not completely convinced that a young Bush Jr. wasn't behind those Tate-Lobianco murders back in '68. I mean, seriously, where in the hell was he?
This is the kind of BS that outrages me. This very bad "joke" distracts from the fact that there are thousands of murders that bush should be charged with.
You now bore me WD. Which I admit took some effort on your part as nuts generally amuse me.
I was trying to be polite and not make any accusations of lying, but it seems pretty nuts to me to say you've been plagiarized by a popular blogger/media figure like Bob Cesca and then not provide any proof of your serious charge.
What's nuts is that Cesca never lifted material from your outstanding blog WD.
This started when I read a link provided at JBW's Brain Rage about two years ago.
I really feel no need to cater to you or anyone else WD. Believe whatever you want. In the end neither of us matters in the vast world of the internet.
I was very interested in seeing exactly what he copied. I couldn't find "The Oracle Speaks" and, even if I had, I didn't know how many articles I'd have had to scrutinize to find this plagiarism.
But I'll have to remember your reply the next time someone asks me a question I don't want to answer... "I feel no need to cater to you".
Also, if one goes by the number of comments a blog receives, mine blows.
I'd help you but you've become more of a pest than anything WD.
Dmarks and Will still like you though. Maybe they'll help you out.
Didn't ask for your "help", don't want it.
Hm, just thinking wd, perhaps...
You should be thanking me for sterring you to the hot porn star babe WD.
You look like you could use some porn these days.
And this Diamond gal does look like a good sport. Your kind of woman.
I am outraged that no one has invoked outrage in me. It is infuriating. I was never outraged. It's just not fair.
Eventually WD will engage with you and you will eventually be outraged John.
Truth 101: Eventually WD will engage with you and you will eventually be outraged John.
That's only because I don't cater to any individual person's desire to not be outraged.
WD has engaged me several times, a few of them with remarkable aggression and arrogance. Even that did not outrage me, which is proof positive that I am un-outrageable. Despite his mental illness, I find him to be intelligent, knowledgeable and challenging. If he discarded the emotional arguments and the "justification" arguments and simply argued what he believes for the reason he believes it, he would be one of the top debaters on the web (in my opinion).
Alas, I don't think he will ever do that. He combines emotion, justification, intelligence and data into an often incoherent soup, which can leave a bad taste, but is very challenging nonetheless.
John Myste: WD has engaged me several times, a few of them with remarkable aggression and arrogance.
You must have misinterpreted my words or you're thinking of someone else. What you're describing has rarely happened, and then only when someone has accused me of lying when I'm simply giving my opinion (for example).
If you found anything I've said to you to be "arrogant" or "aggressive" I apologize for whatever I did that contributed to your misunderstanding of my words.
John Myste: He combines emotion, justification, intelligence and data into an often incoherent soup, which can leave a bad taste...
That's pretty insulting and uncalled for IMO. Why not leave the insults to the actual discussions where you see this behavior taking place? I think that would be more constructive than what you're doing here.
The way it stands this looks like an unprovoked attack... which just reflects poorly on you... IMHO.
WD,
I thought I was very flattering. I had to temper my flattery with insults for completeness. Let me refresh your memory. Your most aggressive debate with me was over Bush's handling of the invasion of Iraq. I seriously doubt one could be more aggressive.
John Myste: I thought I was very flattering. I had to temper my flattery with insults for completeness.
Yes, you're pretty good (and consistent) in arguing in the passive-aggressive style. Point taken. People seem to find it more acceptable for some reason. I'll try to take that route more in the future. Some people see through it though, I think.
WD,
Yes, you're pretty good (and consistent) in arguing in the passive-aggressive style. Point taken.
As a very wise man said when on his deathbed he was asked if he had made is peace with God:
I was not aware that we had quarreled.
Was my tempered flattery a form of "arguing" a one man debate? You had not entered the discussion yet, so I fail to realize where the argument was.
This is an outrage!
Did anyone see the comment Green Eagle left on Rational Nation calling Les an idiot?
I actually like Les. I hope this right wing, anti Obama menstrual phase of his ends soon though.
He excels in anti concepts and has a love for emotionalism.
Truth, let me assure you that my advocacy for Objectivist principles, rational self interest, fiscal conservatism, classical liberalism, reasonable sensible solutions to common problems, capitalism, opposition to interventionist foreign policy, individualism, disdain for socialist Leviathan government, etc. Will NEVER end!
As to the Green Shooter, I could not care less what his opinion of me is. Making it personal is amusing.
As for like I'm guessing it is quite superficial Truth. I was born at night, but it wasn't't last night.
Good Day...
John Myste: ...I fail to realize where the argument was.
The argument is whether your description of me is accurate or not. I thought that was clear. I don't know why you're confused. Perhaps this explains your inaccurate description of my comments as "incoherent"?
Dervish,
I made a comment about you and you responded with this:
Yes, you're pretty good (and consistent) in arguing in the passive-aggressive style. Point taken.
A comment is not an argument. We are now in an argument, but at the time you introduced the term, there was no argument.
You are more emotional than most little girls. It is crazy. I am sorry if I offended you, honey.
C'mon John. WD is a manly man and operates an outstandingly manly blog.
John Myste: A comment is not an argument.
Argument, definition: a discussion involving differing points of view...
You gave your point a view and I disagreed with it. According to the dictionary that's an argument.
And you thinking you can get away using the innocuous word "comment" in reference to all the insults you hurled at me is laughable.
John Myste: You are more emotional than most little girls. It is crazy. I am sorry if I offended you, honey.
You're digging yourself in deeper. You're the one who insulted me. I defend myself and you immediately turn to childish insults?
Dervish,
rgument, definition: a discussion involving differing points of view...
You gave your point a view and I disagreed with it. According to the dictionary that's an argument.
That's you arguing. You offered disagreement.
As for the rest, I marveled at your emotional and combative response. I have never met one so sensitive, that's all.
I did not get mad or hurt at the guy who told me this:
Only the stupidest, retarded moron who can't fathom breathing through their nose would equate people who kill women and children with not wanting to fun Medicare. That's not terrorism, it's democracy. Myste, go fuck yourself in the face. Any thing you've ever said it negated, you're a total waste of a human being, you are not smart, intelligent, articulate or worth my oxygen you are currently wasting. You should do humanity a favor, stick a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger ridding the human race of your idiotic ramblings. Tie a cinder block around your neck and go swimming this second and do the world a favor. Your worthlessness is irritating me.
That is insulting, but even that did not offend me.
However, clearly you are insulted, so you have my sincerest apologies for the unwarranted aggression.
John, you, Truth, and Rusty are the 3 best comic-timing bloggers that I know (what wd considers "passive-aggressive, I consider deadpan)",. This thread is simply yet another example of it. Awesome, me-buck!
Myste: That's you arguing. You offered disagreement.
The argument started with your disagreeable comment... unless you thought I was going to agree with your insults?
Myste: That is insulting, but even that did not offend me.
Why should you be offended? That's a funny comment (if real). It depends on who the insults come from. Given that you're an individual who says he's a Liberal, we should be agreeing. I'm suspicious of this "emotional" charge though. In my experience this is an insult those on the Right often level at people on the Left.
Regarding your comments, I said "that's pretty insulting and uncalled for IMO". How is that "emotional and combative"? That's pretty a pretty dispassionate and level-headed response, IMO. Not emotional or combative.
In any case, you said what you meant (in your original comment). If you want to retract what you said, admit you were wrong, and THEN proffer a genuine apology... perhaps I'll accept. Otherwise you can stuff your fake "sincerest apologies".
Dervish,
The argument started with your disagreeable comment... unless you thought I was going to agree with your insults?
Ah, the soliloquy form of argument, yes.
That's a funny comment (if real)
In my experience this is an insult those on the Right often level at people on the Left.
You hear that because you are very emotional. I am a liberal also, but I never get charged with being emotional.
In any case, you said what you meant (in your original comment). If you want to retract what you said, admit you were wrong, and THEN proffer a genuine apology... perhaps I'll accept. Otherwise you can stuff your fake "sincerest apologies".
I am sincerely sorry that I hurt your feelings. It was never my intention. I am so used to this kind of talk on blogs that it does not affect me and I either don’t respond at all or make jokes about such things. I should be more mindful that some people are more sensitive to criticism (or false criticism as you suggest).
I'm also sorry your outstanding feelings were hurt WD.
Seeing as how we're getting amotional, I do admit some jealousy towards John. It's been a long time since righty told me to fuck and kill myself.
Once they learn to fear John as they fear me they will avoid him and he will descend into the abyss of inconsequenciality that I have.
Being ignored is the wrost thing they can do to you.
God help you once we start ignoring you WD.
Truth,
If you want to engage the right, there are still places where they live and are fearless. Dave Dubya's Freedom Rants is the one that comes to mind. Everything Dave posts gets a deluge or right-wing aggression. He needs feared and revered advocates to join him, though he stands pretty strong against them, even they they double and triple team him.
Also, The Heathen Republican works his own site where he invites left wing dissent. He is pretty capable for a right winger.
I like the way that you qualified that last sentence, John. Now THAT was passive-aggressive!
Myste: You hear that because you are very emotional. I am a liberal also, but I never get charged with being emotional.
I wasn't referring to me dumbass. I meant in general. Check out this comment from "Rational" Nation on Will's blog. According to him, "It's all about feelings and intentions with the left". His is the FIRST comment -- he's responding to Will's post and NOT a comment left by emotional me.
Dervish,
I wasn't referring to me dumbass.
Oh, sorry for the false attribution of emotion, Mr. Spock.
The comment I left on Will's site was left with you and those on the left with similar traits inind. John on the other hand is what I view as a reasonable and unemotional liberal. Similar to Bob Beckel.
Whereas I am an emotional and perfectly reasonable liberal. Thanks RN.
Truth, I consider you and John both to be reasonable (not to mention, funny and idiosyncratic).
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